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« Reply #30 on: March 5, 2010, 12:17:04 AM »

Members of other boards. Fans. People in the pub. Etc. But of course as I don't live in Liverpool, just happen to be a member of SOS, I obviously shouldn't judge whether it's a good move by the organisation I joined.

Anyways - if you want to continue to bad mouth the efforts of others rather than get off your f**king arse and try something constructive - feel free.I've a pain in the bollox trying on here.

I'm done with you shower of negative, say s**t for the sake of being f**king negative whoppers and frankly have better things to do than read the bullshit on here.

(More appropriate for a football forum? f**king twat)

Pretty much what I was thinking too


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« Reply #31 on: March 5, 2010, 07:36:31 AM »

Well if we're going to delete some posts and not others we just won't bother.

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« Reply #32 on: March 5, 2010, 10:00:56 AM »

   

i have to say to compare Liverpool Football Club one of the biggest clubs in world football to Bolton and Porstmouth is laughable at best ..Liverpool Football Club as a world wide fans base that bringing in millions each year so we will never go down the pompie road .. and yeah i do think your goin way OTT .. Bringing all this up again at this stage of the season is just another excuse for Rafa to have a few digs at the owners when he is doin interviews rather then talk about the team and just another excuse to bring up if we dont make the top four  .. every single club in english football owes money not all can pay thier debts but we can .. thats the way of the world at the min...  maybe yer right and there is no right time to protest .. but to protest at time when we are fighting for our champions league lifes is wrong IMO

the simple facts are the yanks own Liverpool Football Club .. any one that wants the club cant afford it and anyone that can afford dont want it ..the yanks are not gona walk away and hand it over .. so all us the fans can do is get behind the team and pray we get into the top 4 this season


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David Prentice: SOS warning which all Liverpool FC fans should heed

Mar 5 2010 by David Prentice, Liverpool Echo

SOS warning which all Liverpool fans should heed

DEBT. Lies. Cowboys. Whichever statement you analyse, The Spirit of Shankly posters which have sprung up around town this week ring uncomfortably true.

Cowboys? Well it was Texan Tom Hicks himself who proudly showed off his club crested cowboy boots.

Lies? It was pardner George who suggested: “We intend to have a shovel in the ground in 60 days” or claimed “This is not a takeover like the Glazer deal at Manchester United. There is no debt involved.”

Then there’s the biggest four letter word of the lot. Debt.

Liverpool are in alarming hock.

An official UEFA report published this week, The European Club Footballing Landscape, revealed that Premier League clubs owed more than the rest of Europe put together – and Liverpool and Manchester United make up more than 50 per cent of that debt.

That’s a serious, club breaking, Leeds United style debt mountain.

The Spirit of Shankly group is sometimes accused of being zealous, old-style Militants who’d start a fight in an empty room.

But their poster campaign is not just well intentioned, it’s justified, because it highlights a very real threat to the future well-being of Liverpool Football Club. And it’s time everyone took heed.

In 2004, 2005 and 2006 Liverpool’s end of year accounts showed debts of £14m, £15m and £26m.

In the first accounts posted after the American takeover, those debts instantly rocketed into ‘Oh my God’ territory. In 2007 Liverpool Football Club and parent company Kop Holdings owed £288m.

In 2008 it soared £385m into the red.

That startling figure reminded me of a conversation I’d had with that outstanding Anfield administrator Peter Robinson in what seemed like a quainter era, way back in 1988.

After a fixture foul-up left the Reds without a home game for a month, he told me: “We’ve had to approach our bank for an overdraft for the first time I can remember. It’s left us with cash flow problems and we’re in the red.”

That was an era when Liverpool’s financial results were of no real interest.

The club made money, gave it to the manager to spend and they won things.

But that was the good old days.

The way in which Tom Hicks and George Gillet bought Liverpool – “a leveraged buy-out” – means that the club now generates cash to pay off the loans they took to buy LFC.

The Americans have dramatically increased turnover at Anfield since they took over – since the Champions League win in 2005, turnover has increased by around 70per cent.

That’s a stunning improvement, but the major beneficiaries will not be Liverpool – but their owners.

The huge debt on the club means that annual interest payments, from a modest £2m in 2006, are now in the region of £44m.

Compare that figure to rivals for the Champions League spot Spurs, or neighbours Everton, who paid interest of roughly £4m in 2008.

It’s why qualification for the cash generator which is the Champions League is imperative.

If Liverpool don’t finish fourth, the Americans will simply have to sell up to a new owner, or start hawking off the family silver.

No doubt some Reds fans will read this article as scaremongering, accuse me of being a bitter Blue seeking to unsettle a proud football club.

Well sometimes the truth hurts.

Liverpool are in trouble – and the Spirit of Shankly poster campaign is trying to drive that message home
                 


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« Reply #33 on: March 5, 2010, 11:04:09 AM »

TBH i try and stay out of this side of LFC.
I have my view on the owners, i dont like them obviously.
I dont particularly like the idea of being owned by rich arabs, but it seems that could be the only way we can compete with some of the other teams rediculous budets.
Id much rather it be like the old days, i know they were before my time but I wish we could go back to the days where managers were given time, players were found in the 4th division and werent paid tens of millions a year.

But with this billboard, i honestly dont see the point. Everyone knows that SOS want the yanks out and i dont see how a billboard will help.


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« Reply #34 on: March 5, 2010, 03:01:15 PM »

TBH i try and stay out of this side of LFC.
I have my view on the owners, i dont like them obviously.
I dont particularly like the idea of being owned by rich arabs, but it seems that could be the only way we can compete with some of the other teams rediculous budets.
Id much rather it be like the old days, i know they were before my time but I wish we could go back to the days where managers were given time, players were found in the 4th division and werent paid tens of millions a year.

But with this billboard, i honestly dont see the point. Everyone knows that SOS want the yanks out and i dont see how a billboard will help.

Stand by BD, that is exactly what I said and have been slated unmercifully. (I also used the word juvenile so maybe you'll get away with it)


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« Reply #35 on: March 5, 2010, 04:29:23 PM »

i think scaremongering is the word here,comparing us to leeds is just plain and utter f**king stupid,they had 1 good season in the champions league and invested stupidly,still paying a % of players wages long after they left,heck they were still paying robbie when he rejoined us ffs....

if our debt was as bad as sos make out then it would of been suicidle for the banks in a time of crisis to re up the loan but they did,if the debt was as bad as sos and the media were makeing out then no bank in there right mind would touch us but the banks said them takeing over liverpool fc would be a huge mistake,this coming from experts not some journo makeing a name for himself in a paper, banking experts....

uefa are claiming the manks are operatining a a profit well thats only because they sold mr winker and didnt spend any of it were as we made a 10 mill profit comapred to the mnanks 2.5 mill yet sos dont focus on this,they dont focus on the new record shirt sponsor soon to kick in,they dont focus on all the new deal long term deal sorted out by the yanks,all they do is focus on the bad stuff and now cause we are moving forward and trying to find investment to get us out of debt or reduce it they are now talking about cowboy boots spades in the ground and billbords,run out of s**t to spread about reminds me of a broken record....

ive been a lfc fan all my life and a season ticket holder for the better part of 15 years i was born in liverpool and i dont agree with there tactics,like i said in a earlier post come up with the 400 mill the yanks want and the x amount to run us with transfers and other crap then come back but if you cant stfu with the scaretactics and the lies that are over 5 years old ffs....

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« Reply #36 on: March 5, 2010, 04:42:58 PM »

Stand by BD, that is exactly what I said and have been slated unmercifully. (I also used the word juvenile so maybe you'll get away with it)

Nicho, you can have your digs all you want lar, you have your opinion and thats great and I respect that, I really do.. You are a red who wants the best for the club and for that you will always have respect.. But, I dont think you were 'slated unmercifully'..!!
Its just called a difference of opinion, but you did go OTT for using the words 'juvenile' and 'childish', calling the people of SOS, or their campaign, or the billboards anything like this is just plain wrong, in my humble opinion.
The original debate was started because a forum member said that SOS should not be doing this in case it affects the teams chances of getting fourth... Lets be 100% honest, we are still performing crap, winning some games, but our football is poor and finnishing fourth is down to two things only - which Liverpool team turns up at any given game, cos we have no consistency.. and what the olther teams around us do... The billboard campaign will have no affect on what happens on the pitch..IMO.

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« Reply #37 on: March 5, 2010, 05:52:53 PM »

I want the Yanks out but there going the wrong way about it Hopefully they get some notice on SSN.



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« Reply #38 on: March 5, 2010, 10:02:44 PM »

Nicho, you can have your digs all you want lar, you have your opinion and thats great and I respect that, I really do.. You are a red who wants the best for the club and for that you will always have respect.. But, I dont think you were 'slated unmercifully'..!!
Its just called a difference of opinion, but you did go OTT for using the words 'juvenile' and 'childish', calling the people of SOS, or their campaign, or the billboards anything like this is just plain wrong, in my humble opinion.
The original debate was started because a forum member said that SOS should not be doing this in case it affects the teams chances of getting fourth... Lets be 100% honest, we are still performing crap, winning some games, but our football is poor and finnishing fourth is down to two things only - which Liverpool team turns up at any given game, cos we have no consistency.. and what the olther teams around us do... The billboard campaign will have no affect on what happens on the pitch..IMO.

If being misquoted about saying I couldn't give a donald about SOS or  the Club, and finally being called a Twat by Marko because he ran out of logical argument to answer a fair question is not a slating then OK.

If you care to read the first post that started the thread, it asked for thoughts on the bill board.I gave my thoughts. The original debate was nothing to do with the effect on the team, that evolved from the opinion  of another poster, so please don't berate me for that. I have not related this topic to the team or manager at any stage. I will re-iterate that I think the billboard was an ill conceived Idea. Thats all.

I'll f**k off now.


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« Reply #39 on: June 8, 2010, 11:46:20 PM »

Great billboard mate, don't listen to all the wankers who can't see the bigger picture and need to come on board and fight as a unit instead of just being negative for the sake of being negative. Keep up the good work  

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