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Reply #15 Posted on: Sun 04/03/12 at 20:28
But how can we be sure which players were Kenny's targets and which were Comolli's?


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Reply #16 Posted on: Sun 04/03/12 at 20:56
Utter garbage.

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Completely disagree. Now is not the time to be shopping around for a new manager as far as I'm concerned. Kenny hasn't got everything right but he hasn't done the worst job in the world, our defence is looking rock solid & we're attempting to play the right sort of football even if we're not quite pulling it off.

One change I think might be a good idea is to hand a lot more control of transfers to Comolli. This is the only area I feel Kenny has failed in, he's bought some flops & for good money too. In terms of coaching, tactics & motivating I have very few complaints though.

Im not saying get shot now or next season but we should be keeping an eye out for the man to carry on from Kenny. Yes Kenny has brought some dead wood but he isn't the only one. 

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Reply #17 Posted on: Sun 04/03/12 at 21:01
I was talking about ScouseUK.

I don't agree with you either, for the record, but I do on a lot of other subjects.

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Reply #18 Posted on: Sun 04/03/12 at 21:04
I was talking about ScouseUK.

I don't agree with you either, for the record, but I do on a lot of other subjects.

Yeah we tend to agree on most things but this one we may have to disagree, out of interest how long will you give Kenny???

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Reply #19 Posted on: Sun 04/03/12 at 21:09
Another season, and then reassess.

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Reply #20 Posted on: Mon 05/03/12 at 12:43
I think this is a kneejerk reaction. As has been said some of his transfers leave a lot to be desired, but he is taking us in the right direction. The progress might not be fast enough for some fans liking, but I think most would agree that he is taking us forward even if it's not as quickly as they'd like.

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Reply #21 Posted on: Mon 05/03/12 at 13:05
We finished sixth in the league last season.

We are currently seventh and five points off sixth.

So I can see why people would think he hasn't taken us in the right direction with regards to the league.

His signings have not been good enough overall and if he wastes more money in the Summer he may well find himself out of a job.

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Reply #22 Posted on: Mon 05/03/12 at 13:09
Utter garbage.

We finished sixth in the league last season.

We are currently seventh and five points off sixth.

So I can see why people would think he hasn't taken us in the right direction with regards to the league.

His signings have not been good enough overall and if he wastes more money in the Summer he may well find himself out of a job.

That's one mighty swing of opinion in less than a day!


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Reply #23 Posted on: Mon 05/03/12 at 13:09
The quality of the sides around us has improved this season though, plus we've had more to play for in cup competitions, it's not quite as simple as just looking at league position.

I totally agree on the transfers though, hopefully it's just a learning curve with Kenny being out of the game for a little while, but if he doesn't improve in that department it could well be his downfall.

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Reply #24 Posted on: Mon 05/03/12 at 13:52
I think it's ridiculous to call for Kenny to be sacked.
were in my post did i call for him to be sacked if you read it all the way i did say iam not saying sack kenny now

 
I think you are being to harsh.   
not harsh just realistic and did us dominateing a game get us 3 points no

this post was made to see if people thought kenny could take us to the next lvl,not a question of sacking him not a knee jerk reaction just a simple question...

yesterday as like the other 8 draws at home its a case of same old s**t failure to kill teams off now thats not down to lack of players who cant score cause we do have players that can score,it was the same under raffa,and yes there has been improvement under kenny but lets get real here its not hard to improve on woy now is it....

iam not one of these fans who want guarenteed sucsess,i want to see improvements and yes there has been some under kenny but do i think we are any further than were raffa took us nope i dont.....

It's a sad day for LFC. To lose a player to another English club is awful, but to another club with such a proud and successful history is devastating. I can honestly say that there will be no malice from me. Thank you
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Reply #25 Posted on: Mon 05/03/12 at 14:13
That's one mighty swing of opinion in less than a day!

I am not saying I agree.

I have been saying for ages now that if we can sign someone to put the ball in the back of the net then we would be a lot better off. Kenny and his coaching team have made the side a hell of a lot better in defence and that has meant that we have got a solid base to build on. What we do need to sort out is the poor goals return. If he can sort that out, then we'll kick on and become a lot better. And I believe that he can and will do that.


The quality of the sides around us has improved this season though, plus we've had more to play for in cup competitions, it's not quite as simple as just looking at league position.

I totally agree on the transfers though, hopefully it's just a learning curve with Kenny being out of the game for a little while, but if he doesn't improve in that department it could well be his downfall.

The quality of the teams around us hasn't improved though. Arsenal and Chelsea are not as good as they were last season, but Spurs and City are better. I think the poor performance of the Premiership sides in the Champions League furthers that. So it's all much the same aside from Newcastle, who we really should not be five points behind.

Kenny will be able to go out and spend more money this Summer, but if he wastes much of it on more substandard signings then maybe the Americans will take him out of the job. Hopefully it won't come to that - and I also don't think that it will.

I think we will target more overseas players this Summer as the British policy has not worked. Adam, Henderson, Carroll and Downing are midtable club players and we cannot sign more of them, otherwise we will become a midtable club. Is seventh midtable though..? 


were in my post did i call for him to be sacked if you read it all the way i did say iam not saying sack kenny now

  not harsh just realistic and did us dominateing a game get us 3 points no

this post was made to see if people thought kenny could take us to the next lvl,not a question of sacking him not a knee jerk reaction just a simple question...

yesterday as like the other 8 draws at home its a case of same old s**t failure to kill teams off now thats not down to lack of players who cant score cause we do have players that can score,it was the same under raffa,and yes there has been improvement under kenny but lets get real here its not hard to improve on woy now is it....

iam not one of these fans who want guarenteed sucsess,i want to see improvements and yes there has been some under kenny but do i think we are any further than were raffa took us nope i dont.....


So is it not worth letting Kenny try to solve that final piece of the jigsaw over the next year or two before worrying about replacing him with someone else who has no guarantee of being able to?

I think that would be greatly disrespectful to a living legend who deserves his second chance as manager and also a lot longer in the job.

Well, someone thinks he may be losing his job thanks to the Arsenal defeat...

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Andre Villas-Boas' recent sacking from the Chelsea manager's position is nothing new in the Premier League.

In fact, AVB isn't even in the first, second or third manager to be given his marching orders this season.

Neil Warnock, Steve Bruce and Mick McCarthy have all been given the push and there are plenty of others under mounting pressure to achieve better results.

Kenny Dalglish may now be one of them.

Here are five reasons Dalglish may lose his job over the loss to Arsenal.

After a temporary trial period as manager, John Henry decided that Kenny Dalglish was the man for the Liverpool manager's job and offered him the position full time.

Dalglish brought in Stewart Downing, Jose Enrique, Jordan Henderson, Andy Carroll, Luis Suarez, Craig Bellamy, Sebastian Coates, Alexander Doni and Charlie Adam for over £100 million.

Despite winning the Carling Cup final at Wembley, the players haven't repaid Dalglish's faith with performances in the league.

Will NESV allow Dalglish another season of frivolous spending?

Liverpool are currently clinging onto seventh place in the league, five points behind sixth-place Newcastle and only three points ahead of eighth-place Fulham.

At the moment—Carling Cup win aside—doubts would have been cast as to whether Liverpool could even achieve a Europa League finish on their current form.

That constitutes an epic failure when combined with the money spent by the club.

Saturday's league fixture against Arsenal was perhaps the most stubborn piece of management from Kenny Dalglish during his time in charge this season.

Liverpool were playing well in the first half and creating chances but the result wasn't going their way.

Dalglish's decision not to make any changes until the 88th minute was a poor management choice by the Kop idol and it cost the club dearly.

It pretty much signalled the end to their Champions League hopes this season.

Kopites are notoriously faithful to their managers unless your name is Roy Hodgson.

Just being Kenny Dalglish perhaps ensures that the Liverpool manager will get more leniency in the hot seat, but there will always come a time when the fans begin to voice discontent.

If Liverpool maintain their league position and finish in seventh place come the end of the season, what will that fan reaction be?

If all of the previous is taken into account, attracting future players of top quality will become highly difficult for the club.

The Champions League is a big selling point to the modern day footballer and it also provides the club with high revenue income.

Without the income or player interest, Liverpool may be forgotten as a European strength and the knock on effect could be critical to the club's development.

Liverpool's Carling Cup win this season was a fantastic achievement, but will it blind the supporters to the more concerning issue of league form?

Anfield hasn't been a happy place this season and the results have been poor.

I would be quite willing to give Kenny Dalglish one more summer to get the signings right for the club, but a seventh- or eighth-place finish this season might mean that opportunity won't come around.

Only time will tell.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1090237-liverpool-vs-arsenal5-reasons-kenny-dalglish-may-lose-his-job-over-this-result

I agree that he does often leave it too long to make substiutions, but I don't think it's a make or break factor.

He needs at least another season to get us up the table. A lot of people seem to have forgotten just how quickly he turned us around last season. The next step has proved harder to make and he deserves more than one season to do it.

We are seventh at the moment, but that doesn't necessarily mean we will finish there.

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Reply #26 Posted on: Mon 05/03/12 at 20:03
I think Kenny has got us playing the right kind of football with a solid defensive base. The ideal platform to move forward. Yes some of the signings have been poor but hopefully that can be rectified in the summer. I trust king Kenny as the man to take us forward!

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Reply #27 Posted on: Mon 05/03/12 at 20:15
I concur. He has got us playing decent football, we just need someone to step up and start burying chances. I don't think we have the right man in Andy Carroll to do that, but we can sign that player in the Summer. Luis Suarez needs someone better to play upfront with him next season.

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Reply #28 Posted on: Mon 05/03/12 at 21:06
That final piece from Bleacher report is typical of the kind of non-story that pops up all over the place. It's so far away from reality it almost qualifies as a wind up.
i have heard not one dissenting voice at Anfield regarding Kenny and don't expect to. it is usually the fans (Bruce, McCarthy, McLeash at Villa will probably be next) or The players (AVB) that get managers sacked and there is absolutely no evidence of that. This story is just a poisonous piece of drivel.


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Reply #29 Posted on: Mon 05/03/12 at 23:14
For me winning a trophy after six years is definitely a step forward. Other than some starting XI mistakes and some poor transfers I think he is doing fine. Its weird in his first complete season fans are becoming judgmental of him. He is no superman he makes mistakes like anyone of us and will surely learn from it. Its not his mistake that our strikers can't even finish tap-ins.

I'd definitely stick with him if he can maintain and improve his level for at least the end of his contract rather than experimenting on someone like who has never managed a top club and ruin all the efforts being put in by the club. How can people forget the dark reign of Roy and how far we have come since that. We as fans are expecting too much of Kenny in too little space of time.


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